JaisGCQuest
06-23 05:17 PM
Hi..
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
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sanju
04-30 04:25 PM
For all those who are upset with the House hearing, please take it easy. Please do not expect the hearing to discuss the details of each and every GC applicant's case. The objective of the hearing was to bring the folks involved in visa bulletins and GC processing, and make them all publically say and agree that Lofgren-Sensenbrenner bill will not flood the country with new people on the borders but at the same time since the federal agencies did not do their job properly, so it would make sense to recapture the visa numbers, and that's it.
I think that this objective was achieved pretty handsomely without much opposition. So everybody was on the same page, other than Ranking member King, whose job in such meetings is to oppose whatever the committee chair is proposing. Rep. King did not have much to say as Rep. Sensenbrenner has co-sponsored the bill. Noticeably, Rep. Gutierrez supported the bill, which means Hispanic Caucus may not oppose it either, hopefully. So it was all good.
I think that this objective was achieved pretty handsomely without much opposition. So everybody was on the same page, other than Ranking member King, whose job in such meetings is to oppose whatever the committee chair is proposing. Rep. King did not have much to say as Rep. Sensenbrenner has co-sponsored the bill. Noticeably, Rep. Gutierrez supported the bill, which means Hispanic Caucus may not oppose it either, hopefully. So it was all good.
rajuseattle
03-07 02:08 AM
Usually shusterman.com is very reliable source for the immigration related news, but i still cant believe that Shusterman received call from Hillary Cinton (Secretory of State). Shusterman is the ex-USCIS (legacy INS) attorney, but that doesnt mean he knows Hillary Clinton personally...unless he is her campaign chair or so in California while she was running against Obama in the Democratic primary race for the US president.
So either this is his plot to garner more subscribers for his website or some kind of news thro' AILA ,but he mentions it as a news from Hillary.
If this information stands true then EB3-I will be U for rest of the year.
It looks like majority of skilled indians who were in the US around April 2001 end up using the 245(i) provision and use the Bush amnesty. Else their is no other logic that the dates are not moving further to OCt 2001 for EB3-India.
Another reason could be the flood of H1Bs during the period of 2001 to 2004, labor substitution practices allowed until the July 2007.
Most of those labors came out of backlong centre prior to July 2007 and folks were able to file their I-140 and I-485 concurrent during July 2007 visagate.
Labor certification was pending 4 years in BeC and now who knows how many more years in the PD retrogression. Due to current economic conditions, dont see any ray of hope to change the plight of EB-3 india.
Obama gave some hopes during his campaign, but looks like politicians surrounding him will not let him do anything good for legal immigrants. I hope he take some positive action on the comments we made on his website when he seek public opinion/ideas on how to deal with the broken legal immigration system
So either this is his plot to garner more subscribers for his website or some kind of news thro' AILA ,but he mentions it as a news from Hillary.
If this information stands true then EB3-I will be U for rest of the year.
It looks like majority of skilled indians who were in the US around April 2001 end up using the 245(i) provision and use the Bush amnesty. Else their is no other logic that the dates are not moving further to OCt 2001 for EB3-India.
Another reason could be the flood of H1Bs during the period of 2001 to 2004, labor substitution practices allowed until the July 2007.
Most of those labors came out of backlong centre prior to July 2007 and folks were able to file their I-140 and I-485 concurrent during July 2007 visagate.
Labor certification was pending 4 years in BeC and now who knows how many more years in the PD retrogression. Due to current economic conditions, dont see any ray of hope to change the plight of EB-3 india.
Obama gave some hopes during his campaign, but looks like politicians surrounding him will not let him do anything good for legal immigrants. I hope he take some positive action on the comments we made on his website when he seek public opinion/ideas on how to deal with the broken legal immigration system
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Sachin_Stock
08-23 09:49 AM
Does it mean the eligibility criteria/job requirement for EB2 is changed from Bachelors + 5 years of experience to Bachelors + 10 years of experience?
Read the definition of EB-2, and its sub-classification for Advanced Degree, Exception abilities and National Interest Waiver.
Read the definition of EB-2, and its sub-classification for Advanced Degree, Exception abilities and National Interest Waiver.
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qualified_trash
01-03 08:02 PM
truthinspector,
Please stop bashing India or any country for that matter. Although I
am waiting for a GC here in America, I always think India is a fabulous
country. There are merits, de merits in every country. But it is people like you who always look at the negative side (according to you that is ) of India and think US has absolutely no negatives that create the wrong perception about India in peoples minds.
Your negativity stems from your low self esteem and lack of self confidence.
Blame your country/system for everything and try to find an escape elsewhere. If you are capable chances are you will succeed any where (Including in India) like many people have.....
Thanks and I dont need your response.
_________________________________________
for all of you sharpening the knives to get truthinspector, let me start by saying that he/she has only mentioned their opinion and/or facts. they may not have been presented in a politically correct manner.
truthinspector never mentioned that the US has NO NEGATIVES........... purely stated why India is still not and (I am not sure about the 500 years - seems like an arbitrary number) will not in the near future, be a developed country and presented his/her reasons for the hypothesis..........
this forum is better served if you can show how and why truthinspector's list is incorrect instead of talking about self-confidence, self-esteem and all the other intangibles that you have no way of gauging without actually knowing truthinspector as a person.........
you are the one indulging in personal attacks, while truthinspector is only stating opinion and/or facts....
the truth always hurts. some more so than the others........
Please stop bashing India or any country for that matter. Although I
am waiting for a GC here in America, I always think India is a fabulous
country. There are merits, de merits in every country. But it is people like you who always look at the negative side (according to you that is ) of India and think US has absolutely no negatives that create the wrong perception about India in peoples minds.
Your negativity stems from your low self esteem and lack of self confidence.
Blame your country/system for everything and try to find an escape elsewhere. If you are capable chances are you will succeed any where (Including in India) like many people have.....
Thanks and I dont need your response.
_________________________________________
for all of you sharpening the knives to get truthinspector, let me start by saying that he/she has only mentioned their opinion and/or facts. they may not have been presented in a politically correct manner.
truthinspector never mentioned that the US has NO NEGATIVES........... purely stated why India is still not and (I am not sure about the 500 years - seems like an arbitrary number) will not in the near future, be a developed country and presented his/her reasons for the hypothesis..........
this forum is better served if you can show how and why truthinspector's list is incorrect instead of talking about self-confidence, self-esteem and all the other intangibles that you have no way of gauging without actually knowing truthinspector as a person.........
you are the one indulging in personal attacks, while truthinspector is only stating opinion and/or facts....
the truth always hurts. some more so than the others........
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10-16 01:12 PM
Like many immigrants, I moved to USA in search of American Dream. With a degree in Computer Science and valuable experience, I thought I could pursue my ambition to excel in my field, while also fulfilling my American Dream. My dream of America was about freedom. Freedom of working at niche companies, living a comfortable life, earning higher wages than what I used to earn in my Home country. What started out as a dream has turned to a nightmare. Like many others I came to USA on H1-B and wanted to convert to a permanent resident. The process, which used to take 2-3 years, has turned to uncertainty. The path for Permanent residency has been entangled in complicated government laws and bureaucracy. I had to wait in line for 4 years just to get my labor application approved and now I am struck in another queue of retrogression. I moved from my country; because I did not want to wait in line at Ration shops, bus stops. I wanted to escape from the lines, but now I am struck in a bigger line with no end in sight.
Whenever there is a discussion about immigration, People always assume it as about illegal immigration. So I have to keep reminding people that there is another side to immigration. Legal immigration. The issues of legal immigrants have been ignored and been buried in the midst of illegal immigration controversies. When I send letters to House Representatives/Senators about the problems of legal immigrants, they reply back about increasing H1-B numbers. Legal immigration is NOT just about just increasing H1-B. Also the anti immigration groups publish that people on H1-B don�t pay taxes. But we pay taxes, Medicare and social security like all other American citizens. With the current immigration laws, we might not be even to avail the benefits of these taxes.
The facts of the legal immigrants
� We are NOT here to take American jobs. We fill those positions when a suitable American citizen was not found
� We PAY TAXES like any other American citizens
� We are here legally. The government has assessed our qualifications and education.
� According to Economic Report of the President, 2006 - Legal skilled immigrants increase productivity growth and improve the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole.
� According to Economic Report of the President, 2006, skilled immigrants constituted 76% of the employment growth in the Executive, Managerial, Professional (e.g., Scientists, Doctors) and Technical (e.g., Health and Science Technicians) categories from 1996 to 2002.
� According to Annalee Saxenian, �Silicon Valley's New Immigrant Entrepreneurs,� Public Policy Institute of California, 1999, in 1998, Chinese or Indian CEOs ran 24 percent of Silicon Valley�s technology firms. These companies accounted for over $16.8 billion in sales and 58,282 jobs. These numbers may still understate the scale of immigrant entrepreneurship in the region because firms started by Chinese or Indians with non-Asian CEOs were not counted.
We are being backlashed by the congress and the anti immigration groups, even though we are highly skilled, well educated and staying legally. We have done nothing but help America in its economic growth and in its quest for innovation and technology. Now we are being punished for being here legally and law abiding by putting us in retrogression. We cannot get Salary hike, or promotions when our green card is in process. So while my American colleagues have moved to greener pastures, I am struck here at the same job and same salary. People struck in green card process cannot open new ventures. The new ventures would open new jobs and increases America�s competitive edge in innovation and global leadership in technology. If American congress does not act at this point of time, there will be a �BRAIN DRAIN�. People fed up with retrogression have already started looking at other countries like Australia, Canada who are welcoming high skilled immigrants with open arms and easy migration laws. As for me I have invested my prime youth for my American dream and hope American government will embrace high skilled immigrants like me. Rep. Shadegg has tabled H.R. 5744, SKIL bill for legal high-skilled immigration. This bill would reduce the current wait time for getting the green card. I sincerely urge congress to pass SKIL bill which will reduce the wait times and help high skill immigrants help America to sustain it�s edge on technology and global innovation.
We are getting more calls for op-eds and need more IV members to pitch in and write articles.
Whenever there is a discussion about immigration, People always assume it as about illegal immigration. So I have to keep reminding people that there is another side to immigration. Legal immigration. The issues of legal immigrants have been ignored and been buried in the midst of illegal immigration controversies. When I send letters to House Representatives/Senators about the problems of legal immigrants, they reply back about increasing H1-B numbers. Legal immigration is NOT just about just increasing H1-B. Also the anti immigration groups publish that people on H1-B don�t pay taxes. But we pay taxes, Medicare and social security like all other American citizens. With the current immigration laws, we might not be even to avail the benefits of these taxes.
The facts of the legal immigrants
� We are NOT here to take American jobs. We fill those positions when a suitable American citizen was not found
� We PAY TAXES like any other American citizens
� We are here legally. The government has assessed our qualifications and education.
� According to Economic Report of the President, 2006 - Legal skilled immigrants increase productivity growth and improve the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole.
� According to Economic Report of the President, 2006, skilled immigrants constituted 76% of the employment growth in the Executive, Managerial, Professional (e.g., Scientists, Doctors) and Technical (e.g., Health and Science Technicians) categories from 1996 to 2002.
� According to Annalee Saxenian, �Silicon Valley's New Immigrant Entrepreneurs,� Public Policy Institute of California, 1999, in 1998, Chinese or Indian CEOs ran 24 percent of Silicon Valley�s technology firms. These companies accounted for over $16.8 billion in sales and 58,282 jobs. These numbers may still understate the scale of immigrant entrepreneurship in the region because firms started by Chinese or Indians with non-Asian CEOs were not counted.
We are being backlashed by the congress and the anti immigration groups, even though we are highly skilled, well educated and staying legally. We have done nothing but help America in its economic growth and in its quest for innovation and technology. Now we are being punished for being here legally and law abiding by putting us in retrogression. We cannot get Salary hike, or promotions when our green card is in process. So while my American colleagues have moved to greener pastures, I am struck here at the same job and same salary. People struck in green card process cannot open new ventures. The new ventures would open new jobs and increases America�s competitive edge in innovation and global leadership in technology. If American congress does not act at this point of time, there will be a �BRAIN DRAIN�. People fed up with retrogression have already started looking at other countries like Australia, Canada who are welcoming high skilled immigrants with open arms and easy migration laws. As for me I have invested my prime youth for my American dream and hope American government will embrace high skilled immigrants like me. Rep. Shadegg has tabled H.R. 5744, SKIL bill for legal high-skilled immigration. This bill would reduce the current wait time for getting the green card. I sincerely urge congress to pass SKIL bill which will reduce the wait times and help high skill immigrants help America to sustain it�s edge on technology and global innovation.
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09-10 01:56 AM
Greg Siskind's blog on ILW
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/09/immigration-voi.html
Thanks to Greg for posting about the rally a second time!
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/09/immigration-voi.html
Thanks to Greg for posting about the rally a second time!
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learning01
03-16 01:34 PM
I agree with your partial disagreement. It's all about Group Dynamics. You know what I mean. Forming, Storming, Norming (settle at common goals, workable strategies etc) and Performing. While it is feasible that all these can proceed parallely, full impact of the group and hence its achieving its goals will happen when these steps are followed quickly and serially.
It is their country and immigration laws and procedures are their concern. They will agree to discuss today and settle to vote after next elections. That's my concern. That's where I said, informing/ just writing to your own employers is enough. These companies, our employers are to a large extent gentlemen. I have a feel that most of them take this FYI / petition seriously. And they will do something about it. Trust me.
I will agree with you partially, you're right, big corporates can make a difference, but I said partially because I feel we are more powerful than the corporates. Look at the numbers, inspite of atleast 350,000 applications stuck in Labor Backlogs & other 200,000 people waiting to file their adjustment of status, we just have 1200 members. So there are only 1-2 % people who thinks they or their fellow citizens can do something. If even 20% of this population start making noise, you'll have a different opinion...
It is their country and immigration laws and procedures are their concern. They will agree to discuss today and settle to vote after next elections. That's my concern. That's where I said, informing/ just writing to your own employers is enough. These companies, our employers are to a large extent gentlemen. I have a feel that most of them take this FYI / petition seriously. And they will do something about it. Trust me.
I will agree with you partially, you're right, big corporates can make a difference, but I said partially because I feel we are more powerful than the corporates. Look at the numbers, inspite of atleast 350,000 applications stuck in Labor Backlogs & other 200,000 people waiting to file their adjustment of status, we just have 1200 members. So there are only 1-2 % people who thinks they or their fellow citizens can do something. If even 20% of this population start making noise, you'll have a different opinion...
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saileshdude
09-10 10:33 AM
Yes. By Law and by the Book. But I just saw in my friend circle. Most of them were US Masters.
I don't what how you define "most" but I am EB2 with US masters with PD 2006 and I am still waiting. Many of my friends with US masters are still waiting.
I don't what how you define "most" but I am EB2 with US masters with PD 2006 and I am still waiting. Many of my friends with US masters are still waiting.
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09-28 08:21 PM
I am going to take this news when it is confirmed to my local congressmen to make my point even clearer henceforth!!! They never learn..do they? I am left speechless...
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delhiguy
07-06 01:35 PM
Generally they give this update on last week of every month.
for May, 05/24/2007
June, 06/28/2007
For july, 07/06/2007.
I don't know why they updated us so fast with in a week on this.
May be because they are not expecting to enter the July applications in the system (or just uptill July 2)
for May, 05/24/2007
June, 06/28/2007
For july, 07/06/2007.
I don't know why they updated us so fast with in a week on this.
May be because they are not expecting to enter the July applications in the system (or just uptill July 2)
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07-06 12:07 AM
May be all of us are trying to DIGG at the same time ....
Page level locks :)
Guys...digg this one religously..
For the first time one article connects our needs to what Americans are interested in; Homeland security.
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bigboy007
06-03 02:51 PM
I understand every member have an issue , and i understand thats the main cause of being with IV isnt ?
But the reason i have touched this issue is also the fact that H1B is all our common goal too , its not only retrogression [ i 100000000% agree thats the key point but also ] there are other points too like this issue of h1B , reg. date etc.
When we are sending Faxes we are ignoring these , even in case of senators get to our attention , whatz the point if these are not taken in to account. Also we are not taking in to account some amendements and conveying our interest towards them.
Why IV is not taking this in the webfax we are sending ? what if people even get rejected while extending for H1B visa ? also the points of date should be bought it up.
I am going to PM this to IV core too and see why we are not doing in FAXES. till now i also sent many faxes but thats not the point neither i am questioning the integrity of IV but requesting to all members legitmate issue are addressed at the most adding 2 more points to current fax will solve the purpose.
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But the reason i have touched this issue is also the fact that H1B is all our common goal too , its not only retrogression [ i 100000000% agree thats the key point but also ] there are other points too like this issue of h1B , reg. date etc.
When we are sending Faxes we are ignoring these , even in case of senators get to our attention , whatz the point if these are not taken in to account. Also we are not taking in to account some amendements and conveying our interest towards them.
Why IV is not taking this in the webfax we are sending ? what if people even get rejected while extending for H1B visa ? also the points of date should be bought it up.
I am going to PM this to IV core too and see why we are not doing in FAXES. till now i also sent many faxes but thats not the point neither i am questioning the integrity of IV but requesting to all members legitmate issue are addressed at the most adding 2 more points to current fax will solve the purpose.
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sankar_203
08-26 03:18 PM
Hope you guys realize this forum is for immigration purpose...!!!!:mad:
if not let me know what school is good in Bangalore..my frind wants to get his kid admitted to school.:D:D:D
Oh Man..that's a very good one..you made my day..No offense to this thread..i do have home loan with ICICI for the last one year..like others mentioned above, it is easy to get approved while being here..i haven't been to any embassy..everything was done through mails and a local bank..
if not let me know what school is good in Bangalore..my frind wants to get his kid admitted to school.:D:D:D
Oh Man..that's a very good one..you made my day..No offense to this thread..i do have home loan with ICICI for the last one year..like others mentioned above, it is easy to get approved while being here..i haven't been to any embassy..everything was done through mails and a local bank..
bajrangbali
06-11 10:52 AM
That is $5 billion not %50 billion. This number makes no difference, NYSE trades shock values more then that amount per second.
Thank you..I corrected it. It might make no difference, but when you think about US banks begging for $25 billions each just a few months ago, I dont think you will have the same feeling.
Thank you..I corrected it. It might make no difference, but when you think about US banks begging for $25 billions each just a few months ago, I dont think you will have the same feeling.
gctest
09-15 04:19 PM
That memo/document you pointed out is an interpretation. We have already said that USCIS's interpretation is incorrect. We intend to correct this interpretation with this lawsuit.
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
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If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
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